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The bombing of Gaza by Israeli planes and missiles had just begun when Barat and Pappe had this conversation on October 15, 2023.
Ilan Pappe is best known for his book: ‘The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine’ Oxford, 2006. It is the history of the 1948 Palestine-Israel War and how around a million people were expelled from their homes at gunpoint, civilians were massacred, and hundreds of Palestinian villages were deliberately destroyed. Pappe used newly declassified Israeli documents to prove that ’transfer’ aka ethnic cleansing - was an integral part of a carefully planed strategy in the 1948 war that led to the founding of Israel. Ilan Pappe is Professor of History at the University of Exeter, UK.
Frank Barat is a journalist, producer, and activist. He has worked on books with Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Angela Davis and others. You can watch the 28 minute video of this interview under the title: There is still Time to Stop the Gaza Genocide on Frank Barat’s YouTube channel.